Fourth Estate
Trial by media
When journalists ignore the excesses of the security forces but pounce upon Maoist crimes, their neutrality comes into question
Pushpa Kamal Dahal loves to flaunt his rhetorical flourishes. Baburam Bhattarai has scholarly explanations for everything, and can pinpoint cause and effect in an academic manner. Chairman Dahal turns the elucidations of his deputy into melodramatic soundbites that the media laps up hungrily.
Unlike his supreme leader, Nanda Kishor Pun aka Pasang is rather soft-spoken. He has earned credibility through his exploits during the armed conflict, so doesn't really need to show off his oratorical skills. Even so, Pun has proved that he is as adept at manipulating political rhetoric as he was at mounting armed attacks.
Early this week, Pun insisted that Kali Bahadur Kham (pic), the absconding Maoist commander of Shaktikhor camp, is innocent until proven guilty by law. Kham had earlier been accused of torturing and murdering businessman Ram Hari Shrestha, and more recently of looting a Chinese trader. But Pun's statement is an artful dodge from the charge that former insurgents are not helping the police with investigations. The Maoist commander created a second line of defence in his next sentence by claiming that the party shouldn't be held responsible for the misdemeanours of its members. In a manner of speaking, he told the press that he believed Kham to be innocent, but if he was found guilty, that would be his problem, not the party's.
The Nepali media, however, has ceded the moral high ground to the former insurgents due to its own obsession with hype and feeding frenzy. Journalists do not seem to be able to restrain the urge to pounce upon Maoist-related incidents and turn them into controversies.
The police's allegations against Kham are just that: mere allegations, until investigating agencies collect evidence worthy of scrutiny in a court of law. Trial by the media is an inappropriate way of securing justice for victims or ensuring punishment for the guilty.
The fallibility of the media was also exposed when the abductors of Dr Bhaktaman Shrestha were found to be hardcore criminals. Even when his family paid a huge ransom to secure the release of this highly regarded physician, the media continued to harp on the Maoist connections of his suspected abductors. It was only when the Judicial Commission suspended the judge who had released Dr Shrestha's abductors earlier on bail that the media allowed the controversy to die down.
The metropolitan media fails to find favour with its critics, like Pun, for yet another reason. The Maoists believe, and perhaps rightly so, that the media tries to hang them for the misdemeanours of their wayward combatants but allows for similar transgressions on the part of the security forces with no more than a rap on the knuckles. In 2007, prosecutors charged Major Niranjan Basnet and three other Nepal Army personnel with the illegal detention, torture, and murder of Maina Sunuwar. Kavre District Court issued an arrest warrant and summons. The army acquitted Basnet of all charges. The media greeted the news with a wall of silence.
Similarly, the heart-rending story of two Dalit women and a child, allegedly raped and murdered by Nepal Army personnel in Bardiya National Park in March this year, disappeared from the headlines as if by magic. When journalists treat government forces with kid gloves and pounce viciously upon former insurgents, the Maoists are emboldened enough to question their impartiality.
Pun may have his prejudices against the free press. He may even be unwilling to cooperate with the police. Investigative agencies can call his bluff by coming up with irrevocable proof against the accused. But the media would do well to refrain from publicising unsubstantiated allegations as open-and-shut cases. The law needs to be allowed to take its own course. Media is politics, but it works best with pretensions of impartiality.
it is no longer worthy waisting time on ck lal's nonsense.
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23 JULY 2010 | 2:24 PM NST
3. Jitendra Dongol
Why is everyone getting so worked up about what CK Lal writes? He is a columnist and is entitled to have any opinion he wants and change them whenever he wants without prior notice to readers. And it's not that anyone is forcing us to read his blather. I stopped reading CK when he started being unbearably predictable and preachy, and I would advise those who just discovered that, to do the same.
- Jit Dongol, Adelaide
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23 JULY 2010 | 2:34 PM NST
4. Nish
Couldn't agree more. Thank god there's CK Lal. He protects our minds from being a storehouse of 'mainstream' lies and disinformation.
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23 JULY 2010 | 3:49 PM NST
5. Manoj
I read the title and only the first line and did not think its worth wasting my time reading the whole article.....best example of how a man can fall so low
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23 JULY 2010 | 4:42 PM NST
6. jange
Lal is right. People must stop hounding the Maoists. The way that the media picks on them anyone would think that the Maoists are untrustworthy liars who go around murdering, looting and extorting and maiming people. When in fact the Maoists have never harmed a hair on anyone's body and are the most peace loving people since Sidhhartha Gautam.
Is there any proof that the Maoists have murdered, looted or extorted anyone? Where is the proof? And yet people are saying the Maoists should give up violence when there is no evidence whatsoever that they were ever violent in the first place. I challenge anyone to provide a single proof of Maoists' violence. Until then they are of course innocent.
Good of Lal to speak on behalf of the weak and meek and downtrodden.
Keep up the good work
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23 JULY 2010 | 5:24 PM NST
7. Ekalavya Sharma
Has CK Lal become Maoist mouthpiece to safeguard Maoist interest? He is deliberately conditioning his reader to make a very positive connotation of Maoist. Now, I must decipher what I learn from reading CK Lal all these 9/10 years or so. I often took Lal words to be "chewed and digested" and nowadays they are not worth even tasting.
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23 JULY 2010 | 6:59 PM NST
8. gangalal
The saddest thing in the world is the fool who goes from knowing nothing to believing in nothing. CK Lal, on the other hand, knows everything but believes in nothing.
Excellent column. Keep it up.
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23 JULY 2010 | 7:13 PM NST
9. GOLE
C K Lal is trying to become ARUNDHATI LAL these days. I wish him success.
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23 JULY 2010 | 8:01 PM NST
10. Ale
C K LAL has become LALLU K.C. He is writing Sugako Ramayan. now a days.
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23 JULY 2010 | 8:01 PM NST
11. Maha
Oh, very enlightening comments, aren't they?
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23 JULY 2010 | 8:54 PM NST
12. Slarti
Very interesting.
Media is politics, but it works best with pretensions of impartiality.
It's not. Media has a responsibility to inform and offer insight. Never mind that.
What you are doing here is worse than what others are doing, you are defending the Maoists, ignoring the judicial process, and perhaps most importantly, covering up for the fact that while this Kham character is a member of the central committee of the country's largest political party. This party is also likely to be ruling country very shortly. This is all besides the fact that you are defending a criminal organisation.
Nevertheless, a whole lot more importantly, you are guilty of the same travesty that you are accusing others of. You go figure how.
For others, do kindly take a moment to go through the archives of other news sites, and also if you can make the effort shuffle through the reports in various newspapers. You will figure out who is doing what.
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23 JULY 2010 | 10:15 PM NST
13. Sunita Tiwari
Hats off to Mr. Lal! So true. Wagles' and Dixits' and the likes should be ashamed of themselves. They do nothing more than brain wash the middle class people with the elitist agenda.
Bush Jr., with the help of 'Fox News' made the Americans believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction before attacking it. Similarly, bootlickers of the present Sood-Oli coalition wants all Nepalese to believe that Maoist which has 120 seats out of 240 in direct election, are against national interest. And all this is being done in the name of democracy.
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23 JULY 2010 | 12:12 AM NST
14. Steve
Completely agreed.
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23 JULY 2010 | 1:30 AM NST
15. Chandra Gurung
CKJi,
What a disappointment. The day you told Prachanda in his Yak and Yeti conference that Maoists shouldn't be 'nagarik' party, but 'jana' party, I knew that you have become too arrogant and have now begun to play with the words for the mere fun of it.
Enjoy these games of words. Meanwhile, Kham is not the person who deserves sympathy, it is Ram Hari Shrestha's widow who does.
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23 JULY 2010 | 2:04 AM NST
16. Arthur
"The fallibility of the media was also exposed when the abductors of Dr Bhaktaman Shrestha were found to be hardcore criminals. Even when his family paid a huge ransom to secure the release of this highly regarded physician, the media continued to harp on the Maoist connections of his suspected abductors. It was only when the Judicial Commission suspended the judge who had released Dr Shrestha's abductors earlier on bail that the media allowed the controversy to die down."
This is obviously true.
Comments #1 to 3 and 5 provide a wonderful illustration of the mentality at work. Anything that is not an anti-Maoist diatribe must be screened out. When the anti-Maoist diatribe falls completely flat and is exposed the only solution is to say nothing about it. Anyone who points that out must be told to shut up.
The problem with such closed minds is that although they will remain resolutely convinced, they are completely incapable of convincing anybody except each other.
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23 JULY 2010 | 2:21 AM NST
17. Kash
@Manoj, I am sure you never made it to the second line and so clevely avoided 'wasting' your time!!!
@Dongol.Good on you mate, that you stopped reading Lal's 'blather'. I believe you!!
Sadly I won't be able to heed your 'good' advise nor will others who find lal's prespective on the current affairs and sundry quite refreshing.
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23 JULY 2010 | 2:48 AM NST
18. Johann
I now regret having trusted and admired CK Lal for the last ten years. I am ashamed for him. When he was pro-army, as he once was, when he wrote praise of Gyanendra as he once did, when he was a Congresi and then became a radical Madhesi, I believed him because he argued his points well and it felt like he had no axes to grind. But the last few articles now force me to question everything he has written in his past. He blames the victims of Maoists murders and not the murderers. He blames the messengers for exposing killers. Lal is now a full-fledged propagandist for the Maoists, that much is clear. It is also a lesson not trust any of Kathmandu's arm-chair opinion makers any more. Trust, once broken is very difficult to regain.
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24 JULY 2010 | 11:45 AM NST
19. Shahrukh
CK Lal writes with free mind.
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24 JULY 2010 | 11:46 AM NST
20. who cares
"Arthur"
who the hell are you, EU agent who has the responsibility of handling maoist and radicals in the eastern nepal?
with your kind of mentality (reasoning) or just pretending is the reason i do not like your kind: if i say i like dark head, you go and tell blonde that i hate her.
prachande and co. fooled many fools by talking just like you and lal comrade, today hardly any one believe their word. except of your kind who are trying to experiment or looking forward to getting bones.
do you care to explain why commi are eradicated in europe?
why people in north korea want to scape into south korea, east germany want to get into west germany (in the past)?
may be nepalese are poor but many are educated as well as well informed with history so not may are willing to repeat the bloody history like you idiot european did?
you europeans were and still are so dumb that marx, stalin, hitler � fooled you and did you.
nepalese are not dumb so no one in our history was able to capture state with majority support like you went through.
nepalese, even after so much hatred to old parties, 70% did not vote for maoist ....... in those who voted- many voted due to intimidation, many voted cause maosit promised to support democracy, and there were may booth captures � .... and many voted cause they were promised loot property which in nepal is defined as revolutionary.�
there were many who voted UML cause nepali congress were totally in the hands of corrupts, crooks ....... and not because they were commie. ........ and they had no other option and UML say they support democracy (half turned out merely to be prachande's side kick)
AND IDIOTS SAY MAJORITY PEOPLE VOTED FOR COMMIE, MAJORITY BELIEVES IN COMMUNISM. THEY WILL KNOW THE FACT IN NEXT ELECTION.
after knowing the views of you and lal comrade and maosit for years, it is clear that commie philosophy means looting, killing, kidnapping, threatening, enjoying lavish lifestyle with public wealth, hard workings feudal and looters are revolutionary.
"The problem with such closed minds is that although they will remain resolutely convinced, they are completely incapable of convincing anybody except each other."
do you know what kind of position maoist used to be for months just after they come to open society and what is their position now?
no one dared to oppose them and today, individuals talking tough against them are gradually increasing by day. today prachande goes around begging, crying.
you think maosit are intelligent like crow, do you have any idea how they were used by norway, india...?
norway, sponsor of nobel peace prize, almost looted hydro project of one of the poorest countries, for almost free, through prachande. that is why norway have been supporting them. in the past, norway used UML (when they were radical) to get hydro project- and we are still suffering, our electricity corporation could be closed any time.
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india, they made maosit sell nepali citizenship for free to indians.
maoist are terrorist, even though they have tens of thousands of members but not a single one have brain, vision, ability to think, analyze, plan, set right goal ....... that is why they do not have any future ........ that is the reason bame , agent of maoist in uml, still have not joined maoist.
real maosit left maoist years ago, later opportunists, criminals joined them. wonder why?
we can go on and on ......
so do not think anti maosit want to see maoist eliminated just cause their name is maoist.
our mind is not closed like yours.
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24 JULY 2010 | 1:46 PM NST
21. Nirmal
except of Arthur, he's been more objective and concrete to defend his stance- the Maoists-.
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24 JULY 2010 | 7:11 PM NST
22. Nirmal
Hmmmm CK Lal in five star hotels conselling the Maoists, concretely about people-ogy(the words are invented when you have nothing left to explain the same after innumerous definitions). Would have sound much more realistic If it has been celebrated in the Maoists liberation camp like cantonements or in their non-sukila mukila or sukila mukila karyakarta's home.
CK Lal raised the right issue on right time but for me the comments that follow it, seem not objective. Why isn't there substantial posts against and for the column. Perhaps it is because the responses are clearly divided into two extreme polars. Ladies and gentlemen, the extremes are not touched but felt.
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24 JULY 2010 | 7:14 PM NST
23. gangalal
@who cares:
Obviously, we don't care about punctuation either, do we?
---- for refreshing links, visit www.dukunepal.com, a website full of "EU agents."
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24 JULY 2010 | 7:28 PM NST
24. Rajan Nepali
who cares, all of your comment displays parochialism at its peak. Would you please do some research before laying claims to all those events that you say have occurred. Can you please tell me where can I read about when the Indians made Maoists sell Nepali citizenship to the Indians? And you seem to have high degrees of hyporcrisy in all your arguments. For instance, you yourself say that: "may be nepalese are poor but many are educated as well as well informed with history so not may are willing to repeat the bloody history like you idiot european did?" and then later on claim that those very poor people that you claim to smart voted for the maosits just because of intimidation or fake promises? where did their level of smartness go then?
The people of Nepal voted for the maoists because they wanted a change from the politics that was going on. They were sick and tired of all the political parties that had surfaced before the maoists.
What I strongly believe is that you just cant go around scolding everyone or blaming everyone about how something doesn't work. You have to give a genuine alternative.
Among all the choices we have in Nepali Politics, what would be your choice right now? Instead of ranting on everyone, would you please support a political entity or if not join politics yourself. Stop whining!
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24 JULY 2010 | 10:52 PM NST
25. Sunita Tiwari
"AND IDIOTS SAY MAJORITY PEOPLE VOTED FOR COMMIE, MAJORITY BELIEVES IN COMMUNISM. THEY WILL KNOW THE FACT IN NEXT ELECTION. "
I think this depressed idiot must have cackled similarly before the Constituent Assembly election. But the result came as a 440V shock to the Indian establishment, their hanuman like Oli-Girija and their banar sena like this commentator.
I still remember K P Oli and Pradeep Nepal's comment a few days after election, when both of them along with Madhav Kumar "India" were not chosen by Nepalese people to represent themselves. These communist- democrat said that it was peoples mistake to vote Maoist and they should have voted their party instead. On top of that, they were blaming their hard working cadres for their defeat.
I'm also waiting for the next election since then, when all these Indian parties like NC and CPN-UML will be wiped out of Nepali mainstream politics like Rastriya Prajatantra Party.
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24 JULY 2010 | 3:40 AM NST
26. Arthur
In #16 I mentioned the closed minds exemplified by most of the earlier comments (and later ones).
I was not of course referring to complete mindlessness. Examples like who cares, #20 do not strike me as typical of the anti-maoist mentality but rather a caricature of it. Although apparantly this sort incoherent ranting is not something invented by maoists to discredit their feudal minded opponents but actually exists among their opponents, it does not strike me as typical, so mocking it to encourage more such exhibitions would be pointless.
What is typical is simply the proud declarations that people used to like reading C K Lal but have stopped reading it and ask others to do so because he writes things they disagree with.
That is not total mindlessness like #20, but it admits and boasts of not being interested to understand opposing views - ie a closed mind.
Even though there may be many such people sharing the same opinions they cannot hope to convince others of those opinions since they cannot understand what arguments might convince others without opening their minds to study opposing views. So their numbers will continue shrinking.
In the end they are exactly as effective in convincing others as those who engage in completely mindless shouting.
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24 JULY 2010 | 4:50 AM NST
27. bibek
I don't know exactly how and why Mr. Lal is turning his way haphazardly. Reading his column for about a year I came to a conclusion that it's a trick of publisher. The publishers' and most of the columnist write against Maoist and Mr. Lal writes in favor of Maoist (he changes his side as per the publishers' need). This leads some pro-Maoist to taste this paper even mostly it is full of wrathy juice against them. Speaking in the content, I can not deny that the media of Nepal are not as much responsible as they should be. Incomplete, ambiguous and misleading news seems as the real face of the journalism. Incompetent covering, insufficient details, no knowledge of subject what is going to be reported may mis-inform the people but ultimately harm the reputation and credibility of the media house.
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25 JULY 2010 | 9:51 AM NST
28. Dr.R. N.Shrestha
Excellent article. I advise to all journalists and medial house to read this article and take seriously in this regards. well done Mr.C.K.Lal . I feel proud for your such an analytical knowledge.
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25 JULY 2010 | 2:17 PM NST
29. Slarti
It is a shame that nearly everybody has forgotten the main point of the argument - that the media cannot be the prosecutor and the judge. That says something about everybody reading it.
Secondly, there are people who would love to ignore what hurts them, playing straight into the hands of communists. The communists have historically depended on the same line of argument - "we are the victims", and they will leave no incident unturned to "win" that position while simultaneously carrying out a murder campaign in the name of that victimhood. And it shows in comments repeatedly.
The mastery of this article lies in the fact the it's claim is not at all backed by evidence. That for anyone to deal with the silliness of the claims would require hours of work collecting evidence to the contrary. So to speak.
Of all the news reports that seep through to the news media, the Maoist get the most , - a fact admitted by CK himself. And, as happens in these cases there are shades of positive and negative for each to see.
Of all the atrocities committed during the war, and after, including that of torture and the death of Maina Sunuwar and the incident in Bardiya National Park, the Army has in relative terms been far more responsible in acting upon the accusations than the Maoist.
Naturally, you can fault the process.
In the Bardiya case, the PAC, and the human rights commission, accused the army of using "disproportionate force" but found little evidence of abuse. The details were posted in the newspapers with ample detail. The case dominated the headlines and even though the media frenzy ended as other events overtook this one (the Maoist Mayday Charade included), it still does find place from time to time.
In the case of Maina Sunuwar, we know that action was taken, we also know that this action was inappropriate. But to compare the incident to this one is simply inappropriate.
For one, you never find the details of the case against this Major chap. Secondly, there is never any mention of the potential innocence of the person(s) involved. This is down to the completely shrill noise by the media. It is now criminal to expect the details.
Compare that with the incidents which involved the Maoists. In the case of Dr Shresta, he claimed that he was abducted by some Hindu outfit, while before that the media (mainly Republica) kept on their relentless claim that he was abducted by the Maoist. Suddenly, known criminals are found to have been involved, ransom had been paid, and then to make things worse, they are allowed to walk free by a court.
"Dr Shrestha was abducted from Chitwan on May 19 and released on June 5 at Majhimtar on the border of Dhading and Chitwan."
"[He] said he was abducted by a professional criminal group at the instructions of people miffed with his work at the hospital, Kantipur daily reported Wednesday. "
It is not clear who were the people so powerful, and so miffed with his (which?) work that they got in touch with the criminals to bet him abducted for a period that long. It is well within the remit of the media to investigate that, has there been any?
Furthermore, the basis on which they released these criminals is also not clear, and there must have been a basis, no judge would act without a clear basis - wrong or right.
In the present case too (Kham), the reaction was swift, and the defense by intellectuals equally strong.
There is no point in stressing how deeply polarised the people of this country are and, by extension, the media.
There is also no doubt that the media cannot and must not be allowed to be the prosecutor and the judge in matters of crime.
What is, however, clearly in doubt and does not stand to evidence is whether it is the Maoists under the heat or is it the Army? It would take work, but if you really are open minded, do please take a look back at just the incidents mentioned here. Go through each report. Check for yourself the language utilised and the message implied.
For open minded people, deciding should not be so difficult.
For the ideology driven, it would be impossible. That is for a very simple reason, by some powerful magic - called truth - the moment they utter that we are not victims, poof, they will vanish in thin air.
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25 JULY 2010 | 2:32 PM NST
30. who cares
Rajan Nepali: i said mostly not everyone.
dont you remember how maoist rushed/forced then govt. � to distribute citizenship without proper investigation, proof ...... just to get support, it was like their party getting support is everything, ,,, � ,,, national security, future can go to hell.
during election, i will definitely give vote to the best available,,,, as for today, i have not any good party or individual i support, ,,,,,, there are good individuals but do not think they can bring good result...... unlike you i am no follower ............. all i care is freedom, nationality, development.
Sunita Tiwari :comrades like you are going for easy politics, ,,, if you do not like someone, tag them to be indian hanuman... .... � ... you are the one who is indian hanuman, who were sent to burn lanka to make them surrender ........�
Arthur: do not go around banging your head, choose a specific view/ theory/reasoning before attacking others/complaining.
what do you know about convincing others? you have any idea how many with similar view are growing by day.
dont you remember how people foiled maoist's third people's movement?
you, � maoist are the one who have closed mind, who do not take other's reasonable suggestion and later regret, make a u-turn, humiliate themselves........ like in their federalism theory (which is not even a theory) how many times did they change it, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,others could not even present it cause it was complicated.�
to all commies: try to explain your view rather then using heavy terms- revolutionary, scientific, people. �
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25 JULY 2010 | 4:11 PM NST
31. who cares
sensible individuals do not like to read those not cause of disagreement, rather because of lack of reasoning quality, nonsense reasoning,�
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25 JULY 2010 | 4:13 PM NST
32. mspatan
As a dedicated reader of Mr Lal's columns since the last many years, it fills my heart with sadness at the downward spiral of this columnist/political commentator/ now playwright and a novelist in future? Mr Lal I've observed two things about you of lately, and my request is that you ponder over them.
1. A few public exhortations by some Kathmandu 'intellectuals' on your versatility and prolific writing capacity has perhaps encouraged you to lay hands on too many pies and you've spread yourself too thin, your 'writings' don't make any sense any more.
2. I think now you qualify as a 'useful idiot' for the propaganda mechanism of Maoists. Are they promising you ambassadorship for Kyrghistan once their regime is installed?
Let's see how they play you in future. Can a tissue paper be reused?
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25 JULY 2010 | 5:37 PM NST
33. Puspa
Please CK Lal next time you detonate a bomb on Maoists in your next column to cheer some of your readers (commenters).
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25 JULY 2010 | 10:14 PM NST
34. amit
absolutely right.
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25 JULY 2010 | 12:41 AM NST
35. yam gurung
Maoists are like pressure cooker.
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26 JULY 2010 | 8:30 PM NST
36. anish
Accountability, Rule of law, Justice are all concepts alien to Nepalese rulers and by rulers, I mean "Democratically elected" Prime ministers and ministers of Yesteryears. Even Lal's beloved GPK abhorred those concepts. Why should we except anything better from insurgents like Maoists and a Tyrant organization like (Royal) Nepal Army? Why should be media any different. After all, they are the 4th part of this failed state.
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26 JULY 2010 | 1:23 AM NST
37. Manik
Hail CK Lal!
Media Neutrality has been a far-fetched dream indeed! I believe it comes in a package as is the state of our country hence and now.
To all that tag Lal as a Maoist...you do not deserve to take an interest in the sorry state of our nation. You are as good a moron to yourself...keep it that way ...keep it real.
As a regular and young reader of CK, I understand he is been honest about the affairs that he puts in words. He is out and out democratic dude. And stands out in the Nepali media like none else as thorough...we have people like CK Lal in media...at least thanks to the rough times that brew a pen like his!
People like 'whocares'...i call them pot-hole parasites...do not have a clue to what CK writes!
We need 'Jange' back in here...how he persistently sees the demon in Maoist is swift...never I feel he sees the same in CK...its just his wish that likes of CK would feed his otherwise saintly ideas!
Once again i write: CK is the elephant in the media that blows trumpets...and the multiple scores of 12 blind men who comment on him are less than blind!
Hail CK Lal!
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27 JULY 2010 | 7:04 AM NST
38. Steve
@ Who cares: Chill out buddy. Why are you all against maoist? Why are you so mad? Concentrate on the article and post your views whether you agree with Mr.Lal's opinion or not ?
Peace
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27 JULY 2010 | 2:48 AM NST
39. jange 38. Steve @ Who cares: Chill out buddy. Why are you all against maoist? Why are you so mad? Concentrate on the article and post your views whether you agree with Mr.Lal's opinion or not ?
Because they have murdered, looted and extorted and continue to do so, with no end in sight. Reason enough I think to get mad???
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28 JULY 2010 | 10:09 AM NST
40. KiranL
You chill out Comrade Steve, to see a critique of Lal's content, all yiou need to do is read Johann's pertinent comment , #18:
He blames the victims of Maoists murders and not the murderers. He blames the messengers for He blames the victims of Maoists murders and not the murderers. He blames the messengers for exposing killers.
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28 JULY 2010 | 10:26 AM NST
41. who cares
steve dude,
who can we chill out when maoist are terrorizing and likes of ck lal comrade advocating for then using nonsense argument? and there is you joining their line.
kham and co. are criminals, which we can prove just by their statement (but here, hanuman ck lal is trying hard to prove them saint. ck lal used to be brilliant, i do know what got, i still believe he still has that brain,,,, may be he is playing reverse psychology ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, maoist and hanumans (blind supporters) have been using lie, propaganda, twist based argument, ,,,,,,,,, may be countering them, ck lal is playing extreme (similar) game)
the statements, which proves that they are guilty, which they have been publishing, stating are:
* guilty of kidnapping: they have admitted of kidnapping ram hari shrestha, they may say, he came to them willingly, but why they did not let his family talk to him, they did not return him, threatened his family.
* assisting killing: ram hari was killed in their custody.
*threatening ram hari shrestha's family: during incident as well as post murder which every body know.
*dumping murder evidence: they threw his body in the river taking his clothes off. ,,,,,,, i think he was tied when his body was found or sign of tying (i am not sure about this).
if he was tied, then why did not they tied other two suspects of stealing their money who killed (which maoist say) ram hari shrestha, if they were tied too, then how were they able to kill ram hari shrestha.
� in case of chinese trader:
*possession of illegal weapon: kham have admitted that bullets belong to him (as said by media).
*he claims the cash found in his room is his and belong to pla, since he is not involved with pla actively, how come he has cash of pla, and what kind of commander has a responsibility of handling cash which is in his room rather than in pla office or bank?�
police must have other proofs too.
steve, if you still believe in ck lal comrade, you should check your brain.
PEACE
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28 JULY 2010 | 12:01 PM NST
42. steve
@ who cares
My friend, I believe I have a good brain which does thinks rationally unlike yours which seems a bit radicalized.
BTW..how abt Dr. Bhaktaman Shrestha's abduction case. I am surprised that you forgot to mention and refer media as you did above and put all the blame on your beloved foes (maoists). That would have been the 3rd point you could have mentioned above if the case was not cracked. Damn...you missed it friend. Way to go buddy.
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28 JULY 2010 | 2:26 AM NST
43. who cares
in these blaming game, medias have made 70-80% correct.
since we do not have advanced investigation resources, our country is all about guessing so,
all i can tell media is to investigate properly.
even the country like USA who spends billions make mistake like iraq war.
and again about dr. shrestha, we are still not 100% sure, even maoist could not completely deny it.
in nepal, if there is a major crime, if you blame maoist all the time, you are likely to be correct 7 out of 10 times.
they keep on begging for forgiveness after crime but they never have handed over criminals to authority.
in my case, i have been talking, guessing, analyzing regarding many things since 6-8 yrs, and my accuracy has been more than 80-90%.
so you need to respect my ability, friend.
just go through my past, who cares in nepali times (started recently), nepalnews.com, some in kantipur and change(human right, prosperous) in blog.com.np.
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29 JULY 2010 | 9:58 AM NST
44. Sunita Tiwari
Steve,
Just enjoy the panic and madness of banar-sena of Rukmangat-Oli Coalition, the slaves of Indian establishment. They just cant believe their land is crumbling below their feet; their hereditary grip on different branches of state like bureaucracy, legislative, judiciary is weakening.
On top of that, Mr. Lal is sprinkling some drops of truth in their ocean of filthy lies. Their lunatic mind, without doubt, must be highly unstable. The groans and moans in the banar-senas' comments are evidence of them losing their mind.
So just take a back seat and enjoy the show.
Cheers!
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29 JULY 2010 | 1:59 PM NST
45. welcome to reality
In the case of Dr Shresta, he claimed that he was abducted by some Hindu outfit, while before that the media (mainly Republica) kept on their relentless claim that he was abducted by the Maoist. Suddenly, known criminals are found to have been involved, ransom had been paid, and then to make things worse, they are allowed to walk free by a court.
"Dr Shrestha was abducted from Chitwan on May 19 and released on June 5 at Majhimtar on the border of Dhading and Chitwan."
"[He] said he was abducted by a professional criminal group at the instructions of people miffed with his work at the hospital, Kantipur daily reported Wednesday. "
It is not clear who were the people so powerful, and so miffed with his (which?) work that they got in touch with the criminals to get him abducted for a period that long.
